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I sent a message to "Noreca" asking if they would export their targa roofs to australia and today i recieved a reply.
I will cost is around $1600.00US landed. Thats about $1950.00AUS.
They said there the same as Nova/Eureka and will fit.
The Noreca roof looks like an F4 design(not 100% sure). Will the Eureka F4 roof fit any Eurela?

If any one is after a targa roof then at least we know there available albeit a little exxy (got to add a windscreen to that).
Liam..

Good job Liam,

That's not a bad price at all considering a Targa or T-top roof from the Feb 2002 Eureka Sports Cars pricelist was $2500 (inc GST) plus windscreen.

What the build quality would be like is anyone's guess although he does state that they are "..manufactured under ISO 9001:2000 quality system..." and that they comply with some other numbers as well .........  ??? whatever they are.

Still, it is one way to get a Targa roof if you are after one.

PP.

Cool, good work Liam.

Not a bad price compared to that supplied by Paul. But quality is an unknown.

The F4 roof will fit a Sport as well. In fact, apparently some fit Sport models better from what I've heard. Basically the roof like is what changed, being higher at the front right behind the windscreen. This also meant the height of the windscreen is different, thus the two different 'screens as well. The base of the roof didn't change much from memory.

I've heard there's a gutter in the mould of an F4 but im not sure if that has any thing to do with the roof mould or not. thats why i wasn't sure if an F4 roof would fit the other models.
I've actually never seen an F4 for real, only in photos.!!!
 

I went looking for a photo showing the gutter, but I got side tracked and lost my way. Still don't have any photos showing said gutter though. However, I do seem to remember that Paul and Morris swapped roof's. Pawl swapped Morris a F4 roof and got Morris's Sport roof. Morris wanted more head room, and Paul wanted a 'pure' Sport. He had a Sport, but it had an F4 roof, not the Sport roof. Hence the swap.

Forgive me if I have that wrong though guys.

The Later "Colleen Long" T-Top Targa roof on my reek does have gutters on 3 sides on each opening.
Stops the water coming in - obvoiusly. Never had any problems with leaks.
The 2 roof panels are simple to remove.
Makes a nice convertible in summer too.

Stu

So how/who/were can I get a "Targa" roof here in Ozzy Land??

The Reek I'm getting is an F4 but the first thing I'm aiming for is an open roof for the summer cruise. O0

Hey Gunna,

from what i've heard through discussion's they are hard to come by here in Oz im not from your neck of the woods so i can't recommend any one to do the modifacations to your current one...

Keep an eye and ear out, and if one shows up, grab it before someone else does.

Or, if you can't wait, then you could risk your roof and give it the chop. Or give it to someone who knows what they're doing and let them do it.

Or you could put $2000 and get to be the guinea pig (see what I did there?) and get one from Malaysia. Then you'll have to pop your 'screen and fit it to the new roof.

That is about the extent of your options. Other than finding someone with a targa roof who will let you take moulds from their roof....

Thanks Gang,
Thought as much.
I'd make pretty good Cavia porcellus, so I'll chase up the Malaysian Guy and get back to you.
The old roof will be kept in storage.

Question: Who has the moulds here in OZ atm?

I believe Paul Nelson still has the moulds. He was/is the last owner of the business. Though to all reports the moulds have deteriorated to much to be of use. To make a full set of moulds would require someone's car or an unassembled kit, and around $10,000, though that figure could be $15,000 these days. Someone looked into it a couple of years ago.

The roof is the most complicated piece of the car, naturally. The roof is made of two pieces, the outer shell and the inner skin. The two halves then had to be 'glued' together. And there's the targa panel on the Targa roof as well.

I have been in contact with one of the members over on Euro-Nova who lives half a year in Singapore (think it's there...) and makes occasional forays into Malaysia. Don't think he's made one recently though. And only part way through this year, a mate moved to Malaysia, though he's not a car nut he might be able to take a look for us. But I'm guessing he wouldn't know quality GRP work to sub standard GRP work.

For the sort of money involved I'll take a punt and order one in. 

I assume the Sterling ones are made in the States but don't have a Targa option??

My biggest worry is getting it shipped without damage.  I assume screens are available for them??




If it works out I'll double my money and on-sell to you guys!! ::)

Email from Lim,

Targa Roof complete with windscreen bonded-in US 1100.00
Wooden Crate 150.00
Shipping Cost 400.00
Shipping Time - 2weeks
Production Lead Time - 3weeks

That's:
         1,650.00 USD = 1,900.22 AUD
United States Dollars    Australia Dollars 
1 USD = 1.15165 AUD   1 AUD = 0.868321 USD

Add about 15% in Customs and GST crap, plus a little for our friendly frieght forwarders, and that should be about $2300AUD.

Does that sound about right Guys?? :-\

Guys how about local business types  like this...

http://www.adcomp.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1&Itemid=2




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So that's with a screen? Wow, a screen on it's own, if ordered individually, is around the $1,400. With 10 ordered it becomes something like $800. So it sounds good.

One thing comes to mind, is if the windscreen would meet Australian Design Standards.

With the Stirling, their roof doesn't fit our 'reeks. The main body tub was modified to meet our ADR's at the time, and the roof for the Stirling doesn't fit. And I'm fairly sure that means the Nova roof wouldn't fit either.

There was a rally 'reek in NZ that rolled and needed a new roof. They found that they could get a cheaper one from the US, and ordered one. But it didn't fit. Don't know what happened to that one.

To get anyone here in Oz to make moulds is going to cost more, as they'll have to go from scratch, and materials/labour cost more here than Malaysia. 

no harm in getting quotes from a local business.... ;D

So that's with a screen? Wow, a screen on it's own, if ordered individually, is around the $1,400. With 10 ordered it becomes something like $800. So it sounds good.

One thing comes to mind, is if the windscreen would meet Australian Design Standards.

With the Stirling, their roof doesn't fit our 'reeks. The main body tub was modified to meet our ADR's at the time, and the roof for the Stirling doesn't fit. And I'm fairly sure that means the Nova roof wouldn't fit either.

There was a rally 'reek in NZ that rolled and needed a new roof. They found that they could get a cheaper one from the US, and ordered one. But it didn't fit. Don't know what happened to that one.
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The screen probably won't have any Ozzy standards on it like the DOT mark, but like most things "it could be replaced later"!!!

I give Lim a call and find out exactly what he copied the roof off. 

I'll be back.

Hi,
I think the $1400 screen is a Sports screen which are no longer made and have to be speciallly made in large orders to make it profitabe for the manufactures. Thats why they order 10 at a time, to bring the price down.
Pl30/F4 screens i believe are still easily avaliable. Mine only cost around $500, (can't exactly remember,but it was much less than i expected) less than a couple of years ago. I assume nothing's changed. Any windscreen Co should still be able to source them.

Liam.....

Ah, my bad. You're probably right Liam. The Sport 'screen is probably what I was thinking of, whist this one should have the PL30/F4 'screen, which would be cheaper. Still, a new targa roof and 'screen for $2,000 - $2,500 isn't that bad.

G'day Gravel

er..... things have moved on in the last 12 months.
Sports screens are now not hard to get and you can buy "one" for under $400
PL30/F4 a little less

With the Stirling, their roof doesn't fit our 'reeks. The main body tub was modified to meet our ADR's at the time, and the roof for the Stirling doesn't fit. And I'm fairly sure that means the Nova roof wouldn't fit either.

There was a rally 'reek in NZ that rolled and needed a new roof. They found that they could get a cheaper one from the US, and ordered one. But it didn't fit. Don't know what happened to that one.
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Email from Lim today:

Hi Dean,
Our main roof design is a replica of the Eureka one but the panel for the targa is slightly different from that of the eureka.
However it shld not be a problem as the opening for the targa panels and overall shape is the same.
Thanks and regards
Lim

I hope his right.
Order goes ahead early next month and should see the roof around mid November.


I got a "rough" quote from one of the best fiberglasser's in the business to do the roof.  Starts at $5-8k for "mates rates" which was excepted.  He said it would look good in carbon fibre.........I didn't even ask.

Really? That's awesome news!! Not that I need one, but there are people out there that do. Is that for a single order or as part of a batch?

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Email from Lim today:

Hi Dean,
Our main roof design is a replica of the Eureka one but the panel for the targa is slightly different from that of the eureka.
However it shld not be a problem as the opening for the targa panels and overall shape is the same.
Thanks and regards
Lim

I hope his right.
Order goes ahead early next month and should see the roof around mid November.


I got a "rough" quote from one of the best fiberglasser's in the business to do the roof.  Starts at $5-8k for "mates rates" which was excepted.  He said it would look good in carbon fibre.........I didn't even ask.
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Well, if the roof is the same, then it doesn't matter about the targa panel, as it will come with the roof.

That quote is, high. Ouch. I'd love one in carbon fiber, but I don't have the keys to Fort Knox on me at the moment...

Good luck with the order. Let us know how it goes.

FYI to those interested:

The TT cost AUD$1,889.15 for USD$1650.00.
Gotta love the USD/AUD exchange rate ATM.
Estimated landed cost should be that, +15% which should = AUD$2172.52 or thereabouts.

Hope it fits ??? ::)

Damn!!

Fingers crossed dude.

 ;)

 and don't forget the toe's cause if this works out for you... you will go down in reek history people will be talking about it for decades.... ;D

Mmmm..........
Now you got me worried.  Is that good or bad?? :-[
I guess we'll find out in 6 weeks or so.
I hope it pans out for all.

Now I'm going hide back in my cave away from that spotlight.

oops i do mean it in a good sense don't be disan hearted by the way it comes across ok .... 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

we are all cheering you on .... 8)

Thats great news Phil!! Especially for the Sports owners. There was a time when Sports screens looked like they may have become totally unavailable. That would have been a tragedy!

without changing the subject of importing parts I thought I would mention that theres an add in the USA HOT VWs mag.September 09.
 advertising sterling sportscars
body kit dot glass,dash,ect no chassis $12,750.oo
body with vw rolling chassis starts at $19850.00
and for a mid-engine round tube,race chassis $9750.00.
www.Sterlingsportscars.com
po box 27122
pittsburgh pa 15235.
412-704-5659.
I THOUGHT WE WERE SELLING OUR CARS TO CHEEP.

Looks like you missed a digit on the last figure. Basically it comes down to demand. The population of Oz would simply disappear if we were all suddenly transported into the city of New York. Just the city, let alone the state of New York, let alone the whole of the US.

So basically, you've got 10 times the people interested in kit cars over there to what we have here. More people buying, the more you can charge.

Then there's the fact those are for new kits. What new 'reeks are being sold today? None. Even if you manage to find a virgin kit, it's still second hand (and you'd be bloody lucky).

what a great find magooster i added that link to my favourites some cool photo in that gallery,,, O0

We've known about that site for ages Dave. Hmm, I wonder if' it's actually in our links section....

must of missed the posting... :P

It wasn't there, so I added it.   ;)

  :o that ages is a couple of days .ahahahehe ::)

Always intriqued about Modifying my Sports to use a "Summer Screen" as per what Colleen Long used to sell.
I wonder if Lim could potentially make/sell these... or whether some are still available by Paul Nelson.

Anyone have contact details for either party?