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Title: Second build, deep in thought... Post by: Billy on Wednesday, 25 February, 2009, 02:51:16 PM G'day all,
I'm currently planning on a second build over here in Perth, WA. My first build was back in Scotland and was a MK2 Nova, unfortunately I had to sell her and have been dreaming about another build ever since :) I'm not entirely sure if it will be feasible to start a build from scratch as I don't yet know how available parts are over here in Australia, I would like to buy the donor VW asap and get a head start but will also look into buying a run down Eureka to play with if the parts are too hard to find. Any information is very appreciated Thanks in advance Billy Title: Re: Second build, deep in thought... Post by: Philinsa on Wednesday, 25 February, 2009, 04:12:50 PM Welcome aboard Billy
I'd say Go For It. I'm nearly finished my second build. Started it in November 2007. A number of parts were missing, but patience and this Forum has helped greatly, (except, I'm still short of a VDO Speedo guys). If you get stuck, there's always someone on the other end of your computer that has been there, tried it, done that, and doesn't mind telling you so. Its great. ;D Got my seats & fuel cap from NSW, steering wheel from QLD, roof hinges from Vic and lots of tips & tricks from everywhere. Title: Re: Second build, deep in thought... Post by: CyCo on Thursday, 26 February, 2009, 12:41:29 AM Kits are no longer made, so you'll be almost guaranteed to get a 'reek that is in need of a rebuild. It would be best to find one with previous rego, as that way it will have a known history.
Title: Re: Second build, deep in thought... Post by: swish1 on Thursday, 26 February, 2009, 09:32:35 AM Reeks in WA seem to be thin on the ground or i am looking in the wrong places . Best place i have found to pickup your VW over here is in the Quokka paper [ our answer to the trading post ] out on thursdays . Good luck with your search and may the best man win ,
Title: Re: Second build, deep in thought... Post by: cruetoone on Thursday, 26 February, 2009, 11:36:00 AM Have you seen the one on this forum for sale having trouble finding a buyer for some time now in WA...
Title: Re: Second build, deep in thought... Post by: 34hup on Thursday, 26 February, 2009, 01:20:57 PM There is also one around the corner from me with an awsome 13B Turbo and microtech was a 10sec car in its original rx7 will be leathal in the Eureka. it is on a sound IRS chassis with new feet on the ground needs finishing interior and paint. 15k. He paid 18k and has done alot of work since then but ran into trouble with his partner. Now he needs to clear some debt. Still rego in WA. PM me for more details.
Kym Title: Re: Second build, deep in thought... Post by: swish1 on Thursday, 26 February, 2009, 02:03:32 PM Message sent hope it worked ,Craig
Title: Re: Second build, deep in thought... Post by: Billy on Thursday, 26 February, 2009, 03:30:45 PM Yea,
Havn't seen any in Perth until today, we took a trip over to Ballajura to see the yellow eureka for sale. The kit would have made a great project and required a complete rebuild to get back to it's original condition. Unfortunately the owner was looking for his money back on the eureka and was looking for around $11,000 and wouldn't be feasible for a rebuild, I valued the car at $3000. I decided to start looking for the donor VW next week and start from fresh, does anyone have any comments on which year VW are optimim use for the chassis? (As my first build was from a run down eureka, there wasn't a choice to make on which chassis to use) I've read on the modifications manual that the optimum chassis would be off a 1302/1303 chassis and have the Mcpherson strut frame head cut off and replaced with a front torsion bar, how involved is the surgery to the front strut frame head? Everyones opinion on this topic will be a great help. Billy Title: Re: Second build, deep in thought... Post by: The Metalsmith on Thursday, 26 February, 2009, 10:32:52 PM Hi Billy,
Welcome to the site. Your best bet with finding a chassis is to go for the latest model beetle you can find that has IRS and a torsion bar front end. Cutting and shutting what you want from a McPherson strut arrangement is an un-necessary stuff around. Having said that, I'd still recommend starting with a reek that has rego, recent rego or a solid checkable history. Rego requirements are probably not as strict over there as they are in the eastern states, but it's surely got to be easier to re-rego one than go through the whole process from the start. I'd be cruising over to Kym's place to have a look at the one round the corner from him. 10 sec rotary in a reek? Oooh yeah baby! Come to daddy... Simon Title: Re: Second build, deep in thought... Post by: Billy on Friday, 27 February, 2009, 12:25:41 AM Thanks for the info Simon, Wish I had the cash mate ;D I'd be around there in a heartbeat!
I've got my eye on a couple of VW chassis this weekend, I'll keep you posted if I purchase one of them. Do you have any suggestions for manuals/books on 'tuning' the VW chassis, I've got the knowledge to do some basic mods but thats about it (Floorpan Drop / Lever repositioning etc).... Billy Title: Re: Second build, deep in thought... Post by: Philinsa on Friday, 27 February, 2009, 02:11:20 AM I've found the "HAYNES - VW Beetle & Karmann Ghia 1954 to 1979 - Repair Manual" No. 96008, based on a complete strip-down, to be a great help.
The only minor problem I've found is that it is based on a left-hand drive, so some of the instructions need to be thought about when it says things like, "on the driver's side". Should be available at your VW Specialist Parts Shop Title: Re: Second build, deep in thought... Post by: swish1 on Friday, 27 February, 2009, 06:31:53 AM I have found the regulations for WA licence are some of the hardest to comply to , it surprises me the red one that went to SA is having difficulty getting licenced . Starting from scratch is a long hard road over here , it can be done but red tape is the killer . First thing you need is approved engineer to run through your plans to see if it can be built to pass regs .
Title: Re: Second build, deep in thought... Post by: CyCo on Friday, 27 February, 2009, 08:12:57 AM Always talk to your engineer before a build. If you don't have an engineer, locate one.
I think this should be Golden Rule #1 if buying a 'reek to restore/rebuild. They'll let you know what you can, and can't do, before you potentially waste your monies. If you can locate a copy of How to keep your Volkswagen Alive, A manual of step by step procedures for the Complete Idiot, by John Muir, it's a worth while purchase. I happened to spot one in a second hand book store and snapped it up. I got a 15th edition, apparently they go up to 19th. It does have a 'hi po' section in it, but is more useful for general maintenance/repairs. The illo's are very clear and easy to understand. Oh, it's American, so it's speaks as left hooker, like the Haynes book suggested by Phil. Title: Re: Second build, deep in thought... Post by: redreek(the stig) on Friday, 27 February, 2009, 09:34:34 AM if you can get one a 1968 with irs rear and ball joint front end floorpan is the way to go.
Title: 34hup any chance on details Post by: barab13 on Friday, 27 February, 2009, 11:19:55 AM hello 34hup any chance on some details on the reek round the corner,13btubo, considering billy aint cashed up for it and prefers to build one. george aka barab13
Title: Re: Second build, deep in thought... Post by: Billy on Friday, 27 February, 2009, 01:44:01 PM Thanks alot for the information guys, I'll go and source some of the material you suggested and get reading. :P
Till next time... Title: Re: Second build, deep in thought... Post by: 34hup on Friday, 27 February, 2009, 02:12:11 PM Philnsa, I can't seem to find the old MSN for sale section in the archives. If it is there could you do Barab13 a favour and me for that matter and post all the detail I listed on the F4 for sale that I posted just before the site closed. The one in grey primer with the blue guide coat. PS Barab13 thanks for the kind comments on my car 1Eureka on the old MSN site.
Billy, I have an IRS super beetle chassis from a super bug and a type 1 front horn for welding on. If you want it $400. There will need to be a small patch welded in on the front passenger side pan but an easy repair, the rest of the pans are sound. I have a semi auto porche box I was going to put into it $800 and a 105k WRX motor loom and ECU included $1500 I was going to power it with. If you are interested in any of it PM me. Swish1, I built mine from scratch including engineers report and it was registered as a Purvis Eureka ICV Dec 2006 with a new VIN number and compliance to current ADR's. It wasn't that hard. Depends on the engineer. I think the SA's have got it tough having to install a roll cage and intrusion bars. Kym Title: Re: Second build, deep in thought... Post by: barab13 on Saturday, 28 February, 2009, 01:25:28 AM thanks for the reply ill keep an eye out for the post,34 hup, wow 1eureka is yours, was surfin the old site ,came across it ,blew me away ,in aclass of it,s own . barab13
Title: Re: Second build, deep in thought... Post by: CyCo on Saturday, 28 February, 2009, 03:18:57 AM Philnsa, I can't seem to find the old MSN for sale section in the archives. If it is there could you do Barab13 a favour and me for that matter and post all the detail I listed on the F4 for sale that I posted just before the site closed. The one in grey primer with the blue guide coat. PS Barab13 thanks for the kind comments on my car 1Eureka on the old MSN site. Just found it. Thank god for down time at work. Here's the body of Kyms original post on the old forums. Quote A friend is looking to sell his F4 with most of the hard work done. It is currently WA registered with a Rotary. I am lead to believe the rotary in it now was running 10.7 down the quarter in a street trim RX7. New 4 wheel disc brakes Independant rear suspension New shock absorbers New 245 tires all round New 5 puck button clutch 13b turbo engine New Microtech ECU wired up and running with base map installed 6 months rego with rotary eng Electric roof lifters Porsche seats I think Custom alloy fuel tank Work to be done that I am aware of: Finish body work and paint, finish wiring, fit up tail lights of your choosing, repair small rust hole in pan rear passengers side, finish properly mounting steering column and seats, obtain an original dash pod or use the timber one that has been fabricated for the instrumentation and mount in newly trimmed dash, trim interior, finished hydraulic clutch pedal actuation lever. Car has been driven around the block albeit hairy as I understand. No side windows, no tail lights, no original dash instrumentation pod. Best I can remember. Any questions email me (email address in my profile) and I will try to find out for you. $15000 firm most of the value in the engine. Kym And a link (http://eurekarchive.multiply.com/journal/item/1579/WA_Opportunity) for ya too. Sadly I can't see the two photos Kym posted. Either they're blocked by the filter here at work, or they didn't make the transition over to Multiply. But, there are vids of it on YouTube! At least, I hope they're still there, YouTube is blocked from here. Vid one (http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=MS4AWtrp9IA). Vid two (http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=cC8SsFXl818). Title: Re: Second build, deep in thought... Post by: Philinsa on Saturday, 28 February, 2009, 03:34:32 AM Thanks Cyco
can I go back to the shed now? Title: Re: Second build, deep in thought... Post by: CyCo on Saturday, 28 February, 2009, 04:09:27 AM No probs Phil. Back to the shed for you, you have a 'reek to complete!! :P
Title: Re: Second build, deep in thought... Post by: 34hup on Saturday, 28 February, 2009, 05:22:11 AM Thanks Cyco
Title: Re: Second build, deep in thought... Post by: CyCo on Saturday, 28 February, 2009, 09:09:03 AM I was inspired (read bored) while on downtime at work, so I thought it would be a good test to see if I could find something in the archive. Only took a few minutes.
8) Title: Re: Second build, deep in thought... Post by: barab13 on Saturday, 28 February, 2009, 10:11:15 AM ah cyco ,your a legend ya found it, i remmember this one ,so dearly tempted,how wil i put it together without the space, tools ,not to mention the knowledge ,wish it was complete,guess he,d be asking more than 15000 then,have to sleep on this one,truely abeast of asports car,and he states 15000 firm . thanks guys for your help with this ,am greatful,any help i can get at all is much appreciated this is all still knew for me,started searching fof areek on net to buy ,have discovered so much more about this sports car i couldv,e ever imagened as once mentioned by a fellow member ;welcome to a cool insanity. barab 13
Title: Re: Second build, deep in thought... Post by: cruetoone on Saturday, 28 February, 2009, 10:44:53 AM ooh ooh that was me ... Thank's for the compliment im glad i could have some input to what you say !!!
i'll have you steerin a sports soon oh no you got your heart set on an f4 just as cool ..... 8) |